From bertil at iire.org Mon Mar 28 12:09:45 2011 From: bertil at iire.org (Bertil Videt) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:09:45 +0200 Subject: [Palsem09] Closing this mailing list Message-ID: Dear comrades, We created this mail list while preparing the Palestine seminar in 2009, and all participants are subscribed to it. I notice that the list is not being used any longer, and I believe people use other fora for discussing and coordinating solidarity work with Palestine. Furthermore, the list has recently become a target for quite a lot of spam - which I as administrator have been able to stop before it would bother you too. I would therefore like to close down this list permanently, and will do so if there has not been any objections within 48 hours. I wish you all the best, In solidarity, Bertil. From rosaburg at antenna.nl Mon Mar 28 14:07:28 2011 From: rosaburg at antenna.nl (Peter Drucker) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:07:28 +0200 Subject: [Palsem09] Closing this mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20110328140728.gkc7yc634cogosg4@webmail.antenna.nl> Dear Bertil, > We created this mail list while preparing the Palestine seminar in > 2009, and all participants are subscribed to it. > > I notice that the list is not being used any longer, and I believe > people use other fora for discussing and coordinating solidarity work > with Palestine. Furthermore, the list has recently become a target for > quite a lot of spam - which I as administrator have been able to stop > before it would bother you too. I would therefore like to close down > this list permanently, and will do so if there has not been any > objections within 48 hours. The IIRE Educational Subcommittee recently discussed the possibility of holding another Palestine seminar - which I believe could definitely be useful - and it was agreed that the Bureau will discuss the idea at its next meeting. So I'd propose keeping this list alive for now until we know if another seminar is planned. Then we could see what the best way is to deal with all the spam, OK? Best, Peter From pen.duggan at wanadoo.fr Mon Mar 28 15:20:38 2011 From: pen.duggan at wanadoo.fr (Penelope DUGGAN) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:20:38 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Palsem09] Closing this mailing list In-Reply-To: <20110328140728.gkc7yc634cogosg4@webmail.antenna.nl> References: <20110328140728.gkc7yc634cogosg4@webmail.antenna.nl> Message-ID: <1566541.32225.1301318438706.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d14> Hi It seems my earlier reply only went to Bertil. I propose that he closes this list and sends me the list of addresses so that we can open a new list like the other FI ones both for ongoing coordination and preparation of the next seminar. This was in fact the proposal for organising our work in the Bureau, it's just there isn't anybody to really take charge at the moment. But we'll be discussing that in a couple of weeks. It will relieve him from the task of blocking spam and so on. Atb Penny > Message du 28/03/11 14:07 > De : "Peter Drucker" > A : "Bertil Videt" > Copie à : "palsem09" > Objet : Re: [Palsem09] Closing this mailing list > > Dear Bertil, > > > We created this mail list while preparing the Palestine seminar in > > 2009, and all participants are subscribed to it. > > > > I notice that the list is not being used any longer, and I believe > > people use other fora for discussing and coordinating solidarity work > > with Palestine. Furthermore, the list has recently become a target for > > quite a lot of spam - which I as administrator have been able to stop > > before it would bother you too. I would therefore like to close down > > this list permanently, and will do so if there has not been any > > objections within 48 hours. > > The IIRE Educational Subcommittee recently discussed the possibility > of holding another Palestine seminar - which I believe could > definitely be useful - and it was agreed that the Bureau will discuss > the idea at its next meeting. So I'd propose keeping this list alive > for now until we know if another seminar is planned. Then we could see > what the best way is to deal with all the spam, OK? > > Best, > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Palsem09 mailing list > Palsem09 at iire.org > http://iire.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/palsem09 > From mireille_court at yahoo.fr Mon Mar 28 15:45:49 2011 From: mireille_court at yahoo.fr (Mireille Court) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:45:49 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Palsem09] Re : Closing this mailing list In-Reply-To: <20110328140728.gkc7yc634cogosg4@webmail.antenna.nl> References: <20110328140728.gkc7yc634cogosg4@webmail.antenna.nl> Message-ID: <857600.21261.qm@web28216.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Dear Bertil and all, I would feel sorry if that list was to be closed, especially when the Middle-East is the only area in the world where revolutions are ongoing, it is true it's a shame this list is not used as it should be, (I've not given up the hope that one day there will be a follow up of the 2009 seminary, at least before Palestine ceases to exist) but all the suscribers are not members of the bureau of the Fourth, though very active in the support and debate over those revolutions, so why don't we turn it into a list of the comrades involved in the solidarity with the uprisings in the  ME; I'm sure it could help us all in our analyses, all the best Mireille ________________________________ De : Peter Drucker À : Bertil Videt Cc : palsem09 Envoyé le : Lun 28 mars 2011, 14h 07min 28s Objet : Re: [Palsem09] Closing this mailing list Dear Bertil, > We created this mail list while preparing the Palestine seminar in > 2009, and all participants are subscribed to it. > > I notice that the list is not being used any longer, and I believe > people use other fora for discussing and coordinating solidarity work > with Palestine. Furthermore, the list has recently become a target for > quite a lot of spam - which I as administrator have been able to stop > before it would bother you too. I would therefore like to close down > this list permanently, and will do so if there has not been any > objections within 48 hours. The IIRE Educational Subcommittee recently discussed the possibility of holding another Palestine seminar - which I believe could definitely be useful - and it was agreed that the Bureau will discuss the idea at its next meeting. So I'd propose keeping this list alive for now until we know if another seminar is planned. Then we could see what the best way is to deal with all the spam, OK? Best, Peter _______________________________________________ Palsem09 mailing list Palsem09 at iire.org http://iire.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/palsem09 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From FIbureau at wanadoo.fr Mon Mar 28 15:15:14 2011 From: FIbureau at wanadoo.fr (FIBureau) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:15:14 +0200 Subject: [Palsem09] Closing this mailing list In-Reply-To: <20110328140728.gkc7yc634cogosg4@webmail.antenna.nl> Message-ID: Hi It seems my earlier reply only went to Bertil. I proposed that he closed the list while sending me the addresses of all those on it so that we can create another list in the same format as the other FI ones that can be used both for broader coordination as well as the preparation of the next seminar. That will relieve Bertil from the administrator task of blocking spam and so on. Atb Penny le 28/03/11 14:07, Peter Drucker à rosaburg at antenna.nl a écrit : > Dear Bertil, > >> We created this mail list while preparing the Palestine seminar in >> 2009, and all participants are subscribed to it. >> >> I notice that the list is not being used any longer, and I believe >> people use other fora for discussing and coordinating solidarity work >> with Palestine. Furthermore, the list has recently become a target for >> quite a lot of spam - which I as administrator have been able to stop >> before it would bother you too. I would therefore like to close down >> this list permanently, and will do so if there has not been any >> objections within 48 hours. > > The IIRE Educational Subcommittee recently discussed the possibility > of holding another Palestine seminar - which I believe could > definitely be useful - and it was agreed that the Bureau will discuss > the idea at its next meeting. So I'd propose keeping this list alive > for now until we know if another seminar is planned. Then we could see > what the best way is to deal with all the spam, OK? > > Best, > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Palsem09 mailing list > Palsem09 at iire.org > http://iire.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/palsem09 From FIbureau at wanadoo.fr Mon Mar 28 16:01:21 2011 From: FIbureau at wanadoo.fr (FIBureau) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:01:21 +0200 Subject: [Palsem09] Re : Closing this mailing list In-Reply-To: <857600.21261.qm@web28216.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is my proposal but not in the present form but like the other FI lists which don¹t suffer from spam (although something called Palestine, Middle East or whatever is much more likely to be the target of that of course) because they have a different level of protection. The it would be managed not by the IIRE but by the comrades in charge of the work. Penny le 28/03/11 15:45, Mireille XX-BM à mireille_court at yahoo.fr a écrit : > Dear Bertil and all, > I would feel sorry if that list was to be closed, especially when the > Middle-East is the only area in the world where revolutions are ongoing, it is > true it's a shame this list is not used as it should be, (I've not given up > the hope that one day there will be a follow up of the 2009 seminary, at least > before Palestine ceases to exist) > but all the suscribers are not members of the bureau of the Fourth, though > very active in the support and debate over those revolutions, so why don't we > turn it into a list of the comrades involved in the solidarity with the > uprisings in the ME; I'm sure it could help us all in our analyses, > all the best > Mireille > > > De : Peter Drucker > À : Bertil Videt > Cc : palsem09 > Envoyé le : Lun 28 mars 2011, 14h 07min 28s > Objet : Re: [Palsem09] Closing this mailing list > > Dear Bertil, > >> > We created this mail list while preparing the Palestine seminar in >> > 2009, and all participants are subscribed to it. >> > >> > I notice that the list is not being used any longer, and I believe >> > people use other fora for discussing and coordinating solidarity work >> > with Palestine. Furthermore, the list has recently become a target for >> > quite a lot of spam - which I as administrator have been able to stop >> > before it would bother you too. I would therefore like to close down >> > this list permanently, and will do so if there has not been any >> > objections within 48 hours. > > The IIRE Educational Subcommittee recently discussed the possibility of > holding another Palestine seminar - which I believe could definitely be useful > - and it was agreed that the Bureau will discuss the idea at its next meeting. > So I'd propose keeping this list alive for now until we know if another > seminar is planned. Then we could see what the best way is to deal with all > the spam, OK? > > Best, > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Palsem09 mailing list > Palsem09 at iire.org > http://iire.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/palsem09 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Palsem09 mailing list > Palsem09 at iire.org > http://iire.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/palsem09 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cinzianachira at alice.it Mon Mar 28 20:20:55 2011 From: cinzianachira at alice.it (cinzia nachira) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:20:55 +0200 (ora legale Europa occidentale) Subject: [Palsem09] Rif: Re: Re : Closing this mailing list References: Message-ID: <4D90D187.000004.00316@NOME-8CDC172AED> Moi aussi je suis d'accord à garder une forme de coordination entre ceux et celles qui ont participé au seminaire du 2009. Pour les raison qui ont dit Mireille et Peter. Cinzia -------Messaggio originale------- Da: FIBureau Data: 28/03/2011 16.02.03 A: Mireille XX-BM; Peter Drucker; Bertil IIRE Cc: palsem09 Oggetto: Re: [Palsem09] Re : Closing this mailing list This is my proposal but not in the present form but like the other FI lists which don’t suffer from spam (although something called Palestine, Middle East or whatever is much more likely to be the target of that of course) because they have a different level of protection. The it would be managed not by the IIRE but by the comrades in charge of the work. Penny le 28/03/11 15:45, Mireille XX-BM à mireille_court at yahoo.fr a écrit : Dear Bertil and all, I would feel sorry if that list was to be closed, especially when the Middle-East is the only area in the world where revolutions are ongoing, it is true it's a shame this list is not used as it should be, (I've not given up the hope that one day there will be a follow up of the 2009 seminary, at least before Palestine ceases to exist) but all the suscribers are not members of the bureau of the Fourth, though very active in the support and debate over those revolutions, so why don't we turn it into a list of the comrades involved in the solidarity with the uprisings in the ME; I'm sure it could help us all in our analyses, all the best Mireille De : Peter Drucker À : Bertil Videt Cc : palsem09 Envoyé le : Lun 28 mars 2011, 14h 07min 28s Objet : Re: [Palsem09] Closing this mailing list Dear Bertil, > We created this mail list while preparing the Palestine seminar in > 2009, and all participants are subscribed to it. > > I notice that the list is not being used any longer, and I believe > people use other fora for discussing and coordinating solidarity work > with Palestine. Furthermore, the list has recently become a target for > quite a lot of spam - which I as administrator have been able to stop > before it would bother you too. I would therefore like to close down > this list permanently, and will do so if there has not been any > objections within 48 hours. The IIRE Educational Subcommittee recently discussed the possibility of holding another Palestine seminar - which I believe could definitely be useful - and it was agreed that the Bureau will discuss the idea at its next meeting. So I'd propose keeping this list alive for now until we know if another seminar is planned. Then we could see what the best way is to deal with all the spam, OK? Best, Peter _______________________________________________ Palsem09 mailing list Palsem09 at iire.org http://iire.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/palsem09 _______________________________________________ Palsem09 mailing list Palsem09 at iire.org http://iire.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/palsem09 From dominicwa at yahoo.fr Tue Mar 29 21:40:59 2011 From: dominicwa at yahoo.fr (Waroquiez Dominique) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 20:40:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Palsem09] Re : Re : Closing this mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <290205.65608.qm@web29012.mail.ird.yahoo.com> I am sorry, but I have always to much work , but I have not use this mailing list a lot, so I have not to take position , but I would like to have a new meeting about the palestinian situation , with all the militants like in Amsterdam, it was so important and now more and more important , when can we organize? Dominique, Belgium ________________________________ De : FIBureau À : Mireille XX-BM ; Peter Drucker ; Bertil IIRE Cc : palsem09 Envoyé le : Lun 28 mars 2011, 16h 01min 21s Objet : Re: [Palsem09] Re : Closing this mailing list This is my proposal but not in the present form but like the other FI lists which don’t suffer from spam (although something called Palestine, Middle East or whatever is much more likely to be the target of that of course) because they have a different level of protection. The it would be managed not by the IIRE but by the comrades in charge of the work. Penny le 28/03/11 15:45, Mireille XX-BM à mireille_court at yahoo.fr a écrit : Dear Bertil and all, >I would feel sorry if that list was to be closed, especially when the >Middle-East is the only area in the world where revolutions are ongoing, it is >true it's a shame this list is not used as it should be, (I've not given up the >hope that one day there will be a follow up of the 2009 seminary, at least >before Palestine ceases to exist) > >but all the suscribers are not members of the bureau of the Fourth, though very >active in the support and debate over those revolutions, so why don't we turn it >into a list of the comrades involved in the solidarity with the uprisings in the > ME; I'm sure it could help us all in our analyses, > >all the best >Mireille > > ________________________________ De :Peter Drucker >À : Bertil Videt >Cc : palsem09 >Envoyé le : Lun 28 mars 2011, 14h 07min 28s >Objet : Re: [Palsem09] Closing this mailing list > >Dear Bertil, > >> We created this mail list while preparing the Palestine seminar in >> 2009, and all participants are subscribed to it. >> >> I notice that the list is not being used any longer, and I believe >> people use other fora for discussing and coordinating solidarity work >> with Palestine. Furthermore, the list has recently become a target for >> quite a lot of spam - which I as administrator have been able to stop >> before it would bother you too. I would therefore like to close down >> this list permanently, and will do so if there has not been any >> objections within 48 hours. > >The IIRE Educational Subcommittee recently discussed the possibility of holding >another Palestine seminar - which I believe could definitely be useful - and it >was agreed that the Bureau will discuss the idea at its next meeting. So I'd >propose keeping this list alive for now until we know if another seminar is >planned. Then we could see what the best way is to deal with all the spam, OK? > >Best, >Peter > >_______________________________________________ >Palsem09 mailing list >Palsem09 at iire.org >http://iire.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/palsem09 > > >________________________________ _______________________________________________ >Palsem09 mailing list >Palsem09 at iire.org >http://iire.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/palsem09 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: